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2021 Toyota Supra meets the BMW M2 CS: the Mk4's real successor | Jason Cammisa on the Icons Ep. 01

What makes a Supra, a Supra? Our veteran automotive journalist Jason Cammisa asks that very question as he pits the updated Mk5 A90 Supra against its mechanical twin, the BMW Z4 M40i as well as the Mk5's predecessor, the A80 Mk4 Supra Turbo.
Cammisa also heads to Toyota's CALTY Design Research Center to visit the magnificent FT-1 concept car that gave life to the Supra - where he chats with Kevin Hunter, its designer, about the challenges in grafting the FT-1's design language onto the Z4's hard points.
The surprise star of the video is the 2021 BMW M2 CS. On paper, it would seem to have nothing to do with the Supra, but in fact, there's an argument to be made that it's an even better Supra than the Supra itself.
Follow Jason Cammisa on Instagram at @jasoncammisa
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0:00 Introducing Supra and M2 CS
2:08 2021 Supra vs Mk4 Supra Turbo Drag Race
2:50 2021 Supra Review Part 1
3:18 Supra vs M2 CS chase
4:38 Supra vs M2 CS on paper
5:28 BMW M2 CS Review
6:53 BMW Sports Cars
7:19 BMW Z4 M40i Review
8:54 Toyota Supra and FT-1 Design History
9:49 What is a "hardpoint?"
10:45 Shrinking FT-1 onto Z4's hardpoints
11:26 Supra horn vs Z4 horn
11:56 2021 Supra vs BMW Z4 M40i drag race
12:49 2021 Supra Review Part 2
14:06 History of Toyota Supra
15:56 The Mk4 Supra Turbo
18:12 Mk4 Sales Failure
18:50 The Hydrogen Fuel Cell trade
19:53 Conclusion
21:26 Credits

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Comments 

  1. PR KING

    PR KING

    Hour ago

    The best 22 minutes of my day

  2. 2 amoor

    2 amoor

    7 hours ago

    Camera man, cam angles ,bgm,editing op

  3. WoWOriginal

    WoWOriginal

    13 hours ago

    the editing and make of this video is top notch!

  4. Dennis Martinez

    Dennis Martinez

    Day ago

    As a Honda fan boy, am I the only one that noticed the S2000 seats in the modded MK4?!

  5. mason appalachiantrail

    mason appalachiantrail

    Day ago

    Is Jason camissa some sort of advanced driving instructor? He’s so talented...or the camera guy and editor are.

  6. Martin Van Amsterdam

    Martin Van Amsterdam

    Day ago

    That MK4 still looks the part though.

  7. Kmet Mošnja

    Kmet Mošnja

    Day ago

    Just on the basis of great production value i would subscribe but you made deal irresistible by adding great entertainment value to it as well.

  8. Juan Pablo Abondano Santos

    Juan Pablo Abondano Santos

    2 days ago

    GREAT VIDEO ! GOOD WORK! I LOVE THE INTRO!

  9. Gerasimos Rico

    Gerasimos Rico

    3 days ago

    Come on stock mk4 wasn’t a super car killer. Barely.

  10. thekiller500099

    thekiller500099

    3 days ago

    that new supra looks so much better than the old one

  11. Dese'rtd рӯбоҳ ḍ7

    Dese'rtd рӯбоҳ ḍ7

    3 days ago

    Jason!

  12. Jung Kim

    Jung Kim

    4 days ago

    🍿

  13. Moose The1st

    Moose The1st

    4 days ago

    So its a BMW with an identity crisis, or is saying to Supra get your own damn car!

  14. Sly

    Sly

    4 days ago

    Also, the 2JZ doesn't "safely" handle much over 800hp (seems substantiated on a few websites anyway), which is the same capacity as the B58 as we've tested so far- with potential for more.

  15. Sly

    Sly

    4 days ago

    I do feel like its kind of pointless and maybe biased to swoon over a HEAVILY modded MK4 at 1000hp; the car is 0-60 at 4.6s stock, which was decent for its time but isn't legendary by any means. The only reason the MK4 was "beating up" on supercars is because the technology back then was evolving so rapidly year over year. The MK4 was one of the first "regular" sportscars to make that jump. Most modern supercars are hitting 60 in 2.5-2.9 seconds and we won't ever really get past that with gas engines on street legal cars (which is already absurd). We now live in an age where a car that does 0-60 in 3.8 seconds with a .14 power to weight ratio isn't a supercar. It's crazy how easy/cheap it is to get a vehicle with monster horsepower these days... back in the day few people could afford it.

  16. Sly

    Sly

    4 days ago

    The FT-1 is beautiful and hopefully (but doubt) it comes to life one day... but that car would also probably cost a heck of a lot more than what the majority of the Supra demographic can afford; its like building a 90-100k mustang... few people are going to buy that type of car at that pricepoint when there's much better (and proven) options out there.

  17. Sly

    Sly

    4 days ago

    My whole issue with BMWs is they all basically look the same for decades now, subjectively, they're all ugly. They aren't sporty looking cars in any sense of the word.

  18. yulmp2

    yulmp2

    4 days ago

    That red concept was 🔥

  19. J D

    J D

    4 days ago

    Absolutely incredible and captivating!

  20. Goncalo Carvalho

    Goncalo Carvalho

    5 days ago

    this was great video, awesome Mr Cammisa

  21. SlayerKine

    SlayerKine

    6 days ago

    Now I have finished the video, great great freaking video!!;D

  22. SlayerKine

    SlayerKine

    6 days ago

    great great intro!

  23. Dennis Plong

    Dennis Plong

    6 days ago

    Lol all bmw except the mk4

  24. TheDisabledGamer

    TheDisabledGamer

    6 days ago

    The "Toyota Supra" IS a BMW and besides if you look at the past super famous Supra this new one is ugly by comparison, not a car i'd buy or bother to look at, Toyota had a huge chance here and they fkd it up imo.

    • Carboy Dorifuto party

      Carboy Dorifuto party

      5 days ago

      Yet the old one sold so bad compared to the older gens its no wonder they discontinued it. Plus the fact that they pulled it out of the US market years before it ended production because of how bad it sold in the US and now we have the new gen thats been out under 2 years now and already surpassed the mk4s sales already. If the car was a failure they'd be selling worse than they're homemade rwd platforms they have with Lexus already as is that barely sell at all anyway.

  25. POLITICALYCORRECTify

    POLITICALYCORRECTify

    7 days ago

    The Supra is 100 times sexier though.

  26. POLITICALYCORRECTify

    POLITICALYCORRECTify

    7 days ago

    What was the first car that beat the new Supra?

    • POLITICALYCORRECTify

      POLITICALYCORRECTify

      7 days ago

      The one with TOYO TYRES ON IT

  27. Darren Ong

    Darren Ong

    7 days ago

    this video deserves more views

  28. Forexmakeit Or break it

    Forexmakeit Or break it

    8 days ago

    Old man step aside if you cant drive a BMW WOT

  29. xbx2207

    xbx2207

    9 days ago

    Hmmm 797 plate number just like mine.

  30. Avg Vet

    Avg Vet

    9 days ago

    Dodge would, dodge would put it in production…

  31. ObsessionTheCat

    ObsessionTheCat

    9 days ago

    This show is so well made that it's hard to believe it's on youtube and not only on tv. This is as good as old top gear. Good work!

  32. Ryshask -

    Ryshask -

    9 days ago

    I don't understand. He said chop it in half.. The M2 is longer by like 3 inches though... The Supra is a hatch back... and 5 inches lower hood.. Apples and oranges... Mind you... I do like the m2 more.

  33. John Moore

    John Moore

    9 days ago

    Man.... If only Toyota used the F1 body with the V10 engine from the Lexus LFA and drive train... OH BOY! That would be AMAZING! Also the LFA has the best exhaust note too!

  34. Eric karlong

    Eric karlong

    9 days ago

    HMMM MAKES YOU THINK

  35. Sojul of Earth

    Sojul of Earth

    9 days ago

    Hahahah BMW vs BMW

  36. JC DIED

    JC DIED

    9 days ago

    This is the new Top Gear we wanted but didn’t deserve

  37. Jonathan Angel

    Jonathan Angel

    9 days ago

    How about the M coupes (z3 and z4)? Aren’t those pretty decent bmw sports cars?

  38. Nero DMC

    Nero DMC

    9 days ago

    It looks soo small than old supra 😒😒

  39. Hamid Ranjbar

    Hamid Ranjbar

    9 days ago

    great video. high quality.

  40. Mesheezy 2020

    Mesheezy 2020

    10 days ago

    Thank you Sir for this amazing episode. I have enjoyed every minute of it

  41. REVlogue

    REVlogue

    10 days ago

    Oh gawd s2000 seats in the Mk4.. :(

  42. Burl Pettibon

    Burl Pettibon

    10 days ago

    10/10 Awesome filming, great writing. You got me hooked.

  43. Desmobrain

    Desmobrain

    10 days ago

    Just, Bravo!!!

  44. Part of the Game

    Part of the Game

    10 days ago

    I'm interested in if Toyota comes out with a fully internal sports car in the coming years. Now THAT...would be super.

    • Tj Tucker

      Tj Tucker

      10 days ago

      Hopefully if it happens you buy it to show support in projects like that because no one really does.

  45. Karma Sonu

    Karma Sonu

    10 days ago

    The cinematic intro 🔥

  46. Yev Yev

    Yev Yev

    10 days ago

    Гавно машина Рекламу талкают её в Японии мало кто берёт

  47. iam zxenxi

    iam zxenxi

    10 days ago

    subscribed

  48. Alexei Popusoi

    Alexei Popusoi

    11 days ago

    What makes Supra a Supra? Nothing its a BMW.

  49. Ace Fixture参る

    Ace Fixture参る

    11 days ago

    They never made 3jz😢

  50. Sean R

    Sean R

    11 days ago

    Nissan GTR is the mark IV replacement.

  51. Javigar13

    Javigar13

    11 days ago

    Man, you should be doing top gear

  52. Ricky Risnandar

    Ricky Risnandar

    11 days ago

    dear top gear usa....

  53. Rolando Gonzalez

    Rolando Gonzalez

    11 days ago

    This is an absolute unit of a production. My favorite part was hearing that Mk4 unleash absolute wrath.

  54. MrManwen

    MrManwen

    11 days ago

    Jason Cammisa is why I subscribed to this channel, just love the detailed backstories given in his reviews 👍🏽

  55. kw

    kw

    12 days ago

    ill take the mk5 tbh

  56. solarc millan

    solarc millan

    12 days ago

    You’re a genius J.

  57. luan maia

    luan maia

    12 days ago

    Genuinely impressed by the intro production quality. Thats a really super high-end video, and really amazing video. Thank you for that, what an amazing channel!

  58. hello im a canadien that lives in canada #canada

    hello im a canadien that lives in canada #canada

    12 days ago

    Il bet you one thing in 20 years starting from now im gonna désigne you a good supra just you wait Im saying that not nowing only a little percent about toyotas styling ,3d modeling , plan making ,etc so dont hate pls.

  59. Dan 747

    Dan 747

    12 days ago

    Is it me or everyone sees 1 supra n 2 bimmers??

  60. Ben Hills 22

    Ben Hills 22

    12 days ago

    Nice video of a supra and two BMW's

  61. interesting

    interesting

    12 days ago

    The Yaris isn't a Mazda in the rest of the world only in the US market. Look at the GR Yaris. Best rally derived hot hatch in years but sadly it's not sold in America.

  62. titan81

    titan81

    12 days ago

    I can't take my eyes off the screen over this video. Fcuk yeah this one is good

  63. AD55

    AD55

    13 days ago

    What a video,what a great host🔥

  64. Jaelen C.

    Jaelen C.

    13 days ago

    legendary video

  65. Glenn Pieschke

    Glenn Pieschke

    13 days ago

    Jason is the best entertaining car reviewer....period....and the video editing was the best!

  66. LightningVolt127

    LightningVolt127

    13 days ago

    Is this guy Adam Sandler’s brother???

    • Hagerty

      Hagerty

      13 days ago

      Maybe

  67. gary allen ii

    gary allen ii

    14 days ago

    Is this willow springs ??

  68. Amra Jemaala

    Amra Jemaala

    14 days ago

    Wow, awesome fun!!!!

  69. Zach Stokes

    Zach Stokes

    14 days ago

    Over a million views. And like 10 of them are mine.

  70. Areeb Qureshi

    Areeb Qureshi

    14 days ago

    Fest and Furious should call you guys up!

  71. Gene Edmunds

    Gene Edmunds

    14 days ago

    I'l take the SUPRA..m2 will need new tires and is all over the place.

  72. Nandu 7

    Nandu 7

    14 days ago

    "You can actually see 'out' of the M2".....🤣🤣🤣

  73. Juha Kankkunen

    Juha Kankkunen

    14 days ago

    Didn't know Jon Cryer was into cars!

  74. Boywonderr71

    Boywonderr71

    14 days ago

    Excellent video

  75. Bruce Lee

    Bruce Lee

    15 days ago

    This is how you make a car video..that car wow me

  76. Erik Martinez

    Erik Martinez

    15 days ago

    Can't wait to get my supra

  77. Gregg Z

    Gregg Z

    15 days ago

    The supra looks so good Please give it a M3 Engine and a Manual. I will buy.

  78. Azmir Ariffin

    Azmir Ariffin

    15 days ago

    Dear Hagethy, keep up the good work....what an impressive video....Its simple, effective, informative and really fun to watch....

  79. Meme187 ridvan

    Meme187 ridvan

    15 days ago

    they killed ft1 supra what a beatiful design they did the biggest mistake associating with BMW....HOW COULD THEY DO THAT TOYOTA WHY

    • Carboy Dorifuto party

      Carboy Dorifuto party

      15 days ago

      They had already agreed to work with BMW well before the concept came to be. From there on they've been working together for awhile now and even a few toyos other than the mk5 are BMW powered.

  80. JHart Modelworks

    JHart Modelworks

    16 days ago

    so compare that MK5 supra to an MK4 that doesn't have $20k of daddy's credit card invested in it.

  81. Khairul

    Khairul

    16 days ago

    BMW Vs BMW

  82. 80sriceman

    80sriceman

    16 days ago

    85k for a little BMW😳 And just 12 payments into it, your at the dealer for an oil leak!😆

  83. Jay

    Jay

    16 days ago

    If toyota sold each supra for the cost of the m2 cs, which is 20k+ more than the mk5, then they probably would've engineered it themselves. But they dont have the engineers to make sports cars, nor the straight 6, nor a platform. So likely would've been near 100k. Then nobody would've driven it and journalists would say its ok but too expensive. Plus, thanks to toyota's engineering on the b58, people are already seeing relatively big gains with little mods, just like the 2jz. thats a successor right there

  84. Andrew Mosley

    Andrew Mosley

    16 days ago

    Haven’t watched a full 22 minute video from start to finish in a while. Keep up the stellar work.

  85. McR07

    McR07

    16 days ago

    Oh man, I am a huge fan of the Supras, and the Z4 has been my all time favourite roadster, and that M2 Competition is literally my favourite car right now and the one that I wanna own, and this video literally brought me to tears seeing all three (or four) of them together going head to head against each other in such a beautiful presentation. Only made my love for the M2 even stronger! ♥️

  86. WHR17

    WHR17

    16 days ago

    Should bought a Supra in the late 90’s. Too bad I was a broke college student and could barely afford my Acura Integra!!!

  87. K Slay

    K Slay

    16 days ago

    M2 all day

  88. manboob5000

    manboob5000

    16 days ago

    Where's the toyota? I see 2 bmws.

  89. star fox

    star fox

    16 days ago

    The real supra is insanely beautiful

  90. Tony Santos

    Tony Santos

    17 days ago

    lol @ auto door lock at 2:27

  91. Winning Designs

    Winning Designs

    17 days ago

    This is the new flagship for reviewing cars! This is more exciting to watch than most Hollywood movies!

  92. Jonathan Yap Jun Ming

    Jonathan Yap Jun Ming

    17 days ago

    From some of the comments below... Some people are absolutely idiots or Can i say low EQ. This is all about business. Is not who is better and who has a great milestones. If 2 companies or brands wants to collaboration. It means Money.. Only those idiots who loveor spend money on BMW or The other Who Loves Toyota gives such kiddo comments. Both are great companies and i repeat myself again.. They Meant Business. If BMW were to give them the green light for a new A90 Which we call SUPRA

  93. Yo Joe

    Yo Joe

    17 days ago

    S2000 seats in a Mk4 😂

  94. Anthony Chestnut

    Anthony Chestnut

    17 days ago

    U gained a sub off of this. For a one man show this was amazing. I second the top gear sentiment as well.

  95. Rob Vicente

    Rob Vicente

    17 days ago

    Jesus. Where the hell are your guys' views? This is TOP TIER stuff! I might even say it's what's actually at the top of automotive content right now.

  96. Richie DJ

    Richie DJ

    17 days ago

    I never thought I would ever say this ... but I finally found someone that compares to Jeremy Clarkson ... please let this guy host all your shows. What’s his name?

  97. Titanium Mechanism

    Titanium Mechanism

    17 days ago

    I wonder if they would've sold more Supras, if they had made it more like the concept without being constrained by the BMW chassis. Sure, it would've been more expensive. But it also would've been more awesome.

  98. dhruv dagar

    dhruv dagar

    17 days ago

    M2 had a lot of shoes to fill.....it filled all of them very well. P.s - its so cool how us car guys listen to these stories like folklore. The legend supra ....... successor of a legend ....its son the M2🤪

  99. R E D I A H

    R E D I A H

    17 days ago

    The MK4s real successor... That’s so unsatisfying. The M2 is way better than the shitty Supra

  100. Nathan Chase

    Nathan Chase

    18 days ago

    That FT1 concept may be the sexiest car I've ever seen in my life

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